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Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

In its early bi-plane days, the IJN used British designed fighters, licence-built in Japan. Let's turn the tables....Britain decides that IJN torp aircraft are far superior to their Swordfish, and...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:An exact copy wasn't going to work, particularly since the FAA had yet to buy into permanent deck parks.Why is that important? Didn't the Nakajima have folding wing for hanger stowage? The B5N...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:Why is that important? Didn't the Nakajima have folding wing for hanger stowage? The B5N is about the same size of a Fulmar, Firefly or Barracuda, all of which fit onto the RN's lifts. It did...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

The Soviet Union rapidly manufactured a licenced copy of the DC-3 called the Lisunov Li-2, and reversed engineered the B-29 to make the Tupolev Tu-4.

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Russia poured a huge amount of money into that program. You'll never get the British taxpayers to cough up that much money in the 1930s.

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

I have not checked the folded width of a B5N, nor I suspect have you. But from photos at least, a folded Kate looks wider than a folded Stringbag. You brush this problem aside by saying, oh well, the...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:I have not checked the folded width of a B5N, nor I suspect have you. But from photos at least, a folded Kate looks wider than a folded Stringbag. You brush this problem aside by saying, oh...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Actually, the intial poster should have done the research, but ah well.... Folded wing width of said B5N was 24'9" (see:

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:This means it is not going to be struck below on the first three armored carriers (22' wide lifts). It only gets off the flight deck via the forward lifts in the last two (33' wide).surely the...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:surely the navy would have simply adjusted their copy to match the 22ft lift dims.Utterly 100% impossible I'm afraid, such a simple solution is unthinkable ;)

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

The B-29 was far, far more complex and exacting a design than the B5N (like the pressurized crew compartment and remote-controlled gun turrets)! Copying (or developing a "near copy" adjusted for RN...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Perhaps the RN reviews the captured B5Ns in 1937 and decides that this is the future of CV strike aircraft, and puts out a spec to the industry for their own radial powered, mono-plane twin seat torp...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

A more likely scenario than a straight copy of a foreign design, no matter how good the latter was. I think differing design criteria and manufacturing techniques would cost more in time and money in...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

The RN likes the B5N, and says, let's take the Fulmar now in development, extend the wingspan, and wheel clearance, and make this our torp bomber. Basically, we'll get a naval Battle. Though I'd...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Looks good. Certainly there were other designs out there as well at the same time. I think the bigger issue has nothing much to do with airframes and engines; clearly the UK could "do" a monoplane...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:Perhaps the RN reviews the captured B5Ns in 1937 and decides that this is the future of CV strike aircraft, and puts out a spec to the industry for their own radial powered, mono-plane twin seat...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

And what about the B5N height with folded wing?? The RN had to clip Corsair wings to fit them into Illustrious hangars, and they would not fit at all in Indomitable and Indefatgable class. It is...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:And what about the B5N height with folded wing?? The RN had to clip Corsair wings to fit them into Illustrious hangars, and they would not fit at all in Indomitable and Indefatgable class. A...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

The reference to folded wing width I used above shows height as a touch over 12'. Don't know if this is folded height or not, but suspect it dosen't matter. Photos of folded B5Ns look much like photos...

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Re: Could Britain copy the Nakajima B5N?

Quote:So I'm guessing the folded height and non-folded height were the same, both dictated by the vertical tail. Ok, indeed my question was about the process of folding/unfolding. When the folding...

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